Clare Craig and John Campbell on her new book Spiked

9:47 Sounds like a message for Hannah Fry:

In 2018, Fry presented Contagion! The BBC Four Pandemic, about the possible impact of a flu pandemic, in which she said "we are about to simulate the outbreak of a fatal contagion throughout the UK ... if I can succeed this will save lives when, not if, a real pandemic hits."

13:23 On models and saving lives. 

17:50 On the importance of data. 

See Clare's books Spiked and Expired on Amazon. 

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